Jake catches Ethan up on rugby news and the brothers react to the first leg of the home-and-away USA Canada series. Neither brother was thrilled with how the match went, but there was a significant gap in frustration and disappointment. The brothers were in agreement, though, in the value in a recent Deadspin guide to rugby.
The brothers manage to get through a conversation about the London 7s without exploding in frustration, and Ethan's admiration for the USA 7s team only deepens. Some time is spent on the topic of the Hurricanes, but the bigger reaction was about a newly-announced television deal for World Rugby events in America. Jake very bluntly steers the conversation to a piece he recently posted on Rugby Today. And Ethan makes it clear that he has no interest in being a "former rugby player."
The brothers talk about the end of The Rugby Championship, the potentially bad news about their pod's namesake, and The Stoop. There is also some USA Rugby to discuss, though not in cheery tones. Ethan expressed a desire to watch a USA Selects match if the European Cup matches aren't available. Jake will take that as a good sign.
Bath's disappointing--at least, disappointing to Jake--performance to Leicester is central to this week's conversation. Ethan was ready to be positive about the match and being able to watch on television. Ethan comments again on how watching rugby compares to watching football, and Jake shares what rugby-related detail kept him sleepless this week.
With The Rugby Championship taking the week off, Ethan and Jake watched three matches from the Northern Hemisphere--one from each of the major European leagues. It was, in many respects, a mixed review from Ethan. Jake was pretty tickled by the Aviva Premiership matches.
The conversation was recorded on Monday morning, but a few human hiccups and technical glitches delayed the publishing. There is a bit of an echo which caused by an error Jake hasn't figure out yet. So far, he is blaming the dog, Josie.
In Episode 8 of The Carter Divide, it was another week with The Rugby Championship at the center of the conversation. Ethan continues to become more aware of the current landscape of rugby, and not everything is good.
I confess that I am pretty excited for a chance to talk about some Americans again. Ethan selected Toulon (because of Samu Manoa) and the Cardiff Blues (because of Blaine Scully and Cam Dolan) as teams to follow. With talks about PRO12 expansion to North America, and rumors about Top 14 ambitions in America, it will be interesting to see which league grabs Ethan’s attention. We’ll be able to watch Toulon on Saturday.
Ethan continues to be more interested in rugby than, necessarily, American rugby. My hope is that rooting for some Eagles in Europe will be a way to get him to care more about America’s national teams.
Since we recorded, Juan Martin Hernandez looks like he will be able to play against New Zealand on September 10.
One way to think about why we find watching sports interesting is that the games, seasons, and tournaments are good stories. The athletic spectacle is nice, but we need more than that. Ethan continues to think that rugby looks good when compared to American football, but he's still more excited about the NFL season than the rugby championship. The task now is to give Ethan compelling stories, or the right information so he can find his own narratives.
In this episode, we talk about some matches from the 2015-2016 HSBC World Series. Ethan's never really watched sevens before, so hopefully we can get him excited for the Olympics...after he learns that there will be rugby at the Olympics.
For Episode 2, we watched San Francisco host San Diego in PRO Rugby. Because we recorded at the end of some good ol' family time, we were able to watch together.
Progress is being made in converting Ethan to a rugby fan. Watching Super Rugby did not improve his perspective on PRO Rugby, though.