Ethan made the apt observation that watching the USA defeat Canada and then almost immediately watching the All Blacks v Lions made the minor league status of the American accomplishment clear. Still, it was a good win, and both brothers enjoyed that. Jake pushed Ethan to pick a favorite player, and gauged Ethan's attitude toward the financial promise of rugby in America.
The brothers react to the Barbarians match against England, the Hurricanes win over the Bulls, and discuss recent news from America. Ethan does not care as much as Jake about the USA Eagles coaching change, but his love for rugby comes through in his reaction to the news of a new competition forming in America.
The brothers manage to get through a conversation about the London 7s without exploding in frustration, and Ethan's admiration for the USA 7s team only deepens. Some time is spent on the topic of the Hurricanes, but the bigger reaction was about a newly-announced television deal for World Rugby events in America. Jake very bluntly steers the conversation to a piece he recently posted on Rugby Today. And Ethan makes it clear that he has no interest in being a "former rugby player."
Both brothers share their reactions to the Crusaders v Hurricanes Super Rugby match. Jake also has some USA-related news for Ethan, and Ethan once again shares how well he did in working out how to watch an HSBC 7s tournament without seeing the scores first.
Conventional Wisdom--at least according to Jake--held that the Munster v Saracens semi-final was a kick-fest that lacked flair. Ethan's reaction showed the power of being unaware of Conventional Wisdom. This episode is more evidence that Ethan isn't getting sucked into off-field story lines and what can happen when all a fan pays attention to is what happens on the pitch for 80 minutes.
In Episode 10, it is back to The Rugby Championship and a chance to talk about Argentina's great 50 minutes against New Zealand, as well as the rest of that match and Australia's win over South Africa. This was the first weekend that saw rugby competing with the NFL season for Ethan, who is a pretty serious football fan. Before they talked, Jake was pretty worried about how that competition would go.
The conversation continues to evolve as Ethan's journey into rugby fandom progresses. Unfortunately, the brothers' skills with the technical details is evolving at a slightly slower pace. You might notice some hiccups in the episode which are the result of Jake's mic deciding to take some breaks during the recording.
In Episode 8 of The Carter Divide, it was another week with The Rugby Championship at the center of the conversation. Ethan continues to become more aware of the current landscape of rugby, and not everything is good.
I confess that I am pretty excited for a chance to talk about some Americans again. Ethan selected Toulon (because of Samu Manoa) and the Cardiff Blues (because of Blaine Scully and Cam Dolan) as teams to follow. With talks about PRO12 expansion to North America, and rumors about Top 14 ambitions in America, it will be interesting to see which league grabs Ethan’s attention. We’ll be able to watch Toulon on Saturday.
Ethan continues to be more interested in rugby than, necessarily, American rugby. My hope is that rooting for some Eagles in Europe will be a way to get him to care more about America’s national teams.
Since we recorded, Juan Martin Hernandez looks like he will be able to play against New Zealand on September 10.
Ethan's crush on Beauden Barrett gets a little stronger as the brothers discuss the Super Rugby semifinal, looming Olympics, and the PRO Rugby season conclusion. The brothers were again in the same room for this recording, and Jake managed not to storm out when Ethan admitted he'd forgotten there would be rugby in the Olympics.